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Poster: Jim Carlile Date: Jul 27, 2009 1:42am
Forum: texts Subject: Google is starting to ration downloads, and won't support resume

Anyone else noticed this?

Besides pushing the download feature for full-text PD books practically right off the page(and only calling it "pdf"), Google is now rationing downloads.

If you have a slow connection, gone are the days when you could set up a list of books to download. After one book, the next book page will load up with an authentication fill-in, then it won't support resume.

Even for books already in your queue. When they told you they supported resume.

It says it will, but when you try to go back and resume later on, it kicks them right off and tells you "no resume."

Interestingly, they have NO mention of "support resume" or resume problems in their help files any more, and when you Google the web, nothing comes up at all about it- it's as if the whole idea never existed to anyone.

Pretty suspicious. It's like they don't want to talk about it-- just like they don't promote the download function any more-- they just call it 'pdf.'

Hmm-- this is only the start of free download crippling. Within two years they will be charging for PD downloads. No doubt about it now. This feature was only a come-on to get ahold of the works from these libraries.

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Jul 27, 2009 4:43am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google is starting to ration downloads, and won't support resume

Jim

While I agree with what you say, thats also an indication that Google Books are becoming more popular.

1, that is like overload of the server
2, and Google is rationing due to the overload.
3, Google should expand the server, instead, to save money, its rationing.

After all, 100% use 24/7 use makes the most profit, expanding the server, so there is spare capacity, 80% use 24/7, not so profitable.

Its that famous monopoly game again, no real competition seeing its tied up so many books already.

Good night

Peter

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Poster: omrick1 Date: Jul 27, 2009 5:47am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google is starting to ration downloads, and won't support resume

If you want fast downloads, use Orbit downloader. I have DSL and regularly get speeds of 170 to 200 Kbs.

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Jul 27, 2009 5:58pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google is starting to ration downloads, and won't support resume

NZ is a slow overseas link, so i chose to download around our midnight, but then thats peak time for the USA. My Firefox has a add on that can cope with broken downloads, which mostly happen when the data rate slows to nil.

Peter

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Poster: Jim Carlile Date: Jul 27, 2009 4:11pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google is starting to ration downloads, and won't support resume

Possibly it's their server, but it's getting worse. Now they toss off your entire previous queue, and don't let you queue up in the first place.

I'm suspicious-- I think they're trying to discourage downloads. They're up to something-- I mean, remember when they used to say on the page "download this book?" They don't promote it any more, and they are also withholding more full-view PD journal scans, too.

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Poster: garthus Date: Jul 27, 2009 8:47am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google is starting to ration downloads, and won't support resume

While it is good to know what google is up to, I think that they are becoming less important in the public domain arena. Even if they get that crappy agreement of theirs through; the Archive will continue to place increasing numbers of public domain works up. As far as copyrighted works go, let them fight it out wiith the publishers. How much poetry is really being published by the big publishers anyway. Most of the crap produced for modern consumption is mostly bought by piublic libraries and the brain dead minions which are increasing populating the countries under the influence of western cultural corruption. The archive will increasingly become the refuge for historical preservation and atrists and writers who care more about intellectual content and less about the corrupt western profit motive.

In the market place of ideas, those freely available will eventually become more important than those placed under lock and key; the future rests with free and unfettered distribution, not the corrupt and brain dead google models of today.

gerry

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Jul 27, 2009 6:02pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google is starting to ration downloads, and won't support resume

Gerry

To be honest, some things that the IA forwards me to Google for, is upon reflection, no loss if I don't have get it.

And it may be something will happen to cause Google to back down.

I got 24 hours for finish some major work for an assessment. Have a great day. (or is it night)

Peter

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Poster: garthus Date: Jul 27, 2009 7:18pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google is starting to ration downloads, and won't support resume

Peter,

Thank you, night here. I finally start to feel a little better, was in hospital for nearly 25 days this month. Fortunately I had wireless access to the Internet. I try to do as much as I can to get my collection of pamphlets and books digitized. Just purchased a two sided scanner, hopefully it will increase the speed for scanning these materials. Just picked up the entire set of Sams Photofact folders, complete up to 1964. (at least that is the Public Domain part of the series. Will try to put them up as I can.

gerry

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Jul 27, 2009 8:41pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google is starting to ration downloads, and won't support resume

Gerry

Me, I keep falling over, the ambulance service and ED people have to give me special help, I get 50% disability subsidy on taxi travel, my taxi company yesterday rescued me from the supermarket, sudden exhaustion hit me. After tomorrow, I will be getting more 100% free taxi, next week better health care as for 30-years I have been medicated for issues I don't have.

I am on a 8 year Statistics NZ survey, today was end of year 7, two hours of questions today, exhausted me. I got some handouts I will check to see if i can put on the IA, and still I got Cell Tower 2 documents to scan. Today's paper is due, only provider 1 got their tower up, it might be Cell Tower WWIII starts today.

Peter, (look after yourself, I am flat out for a week starting in the morning)